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Term Limits Will Solve Nothing

MYCHAL MASSIE OPPOSES TERM LIMITS

Many conservatives find it a stunning admission on my part when I say that “I’m unapologetically opposed to term limits.” They are even more shocked when I say that I will resist the codification of term limits.

I once thought I favored term limits; because I, like many today, hadn’t thought through the ramifications of same. Like many today, I took a cursory glance at the subject, applied logic that in no way addressed the real problem, and then parroted “we need term limits” in conjunction with the cacophony of voices calling for same.

When I took time to think things through, I realized that the Constitution established term limits. It provides a term limit of two years for members of the House of Representatives, and a term limit of six years for those in the Senate. Said members of each Body are permitted to serve additional terms at the discretion of the voters. And therein lies the rub.





Voters are lazy and gullible. The majority would rather complain and do nothing than to actually get involved. Their reasons for not getting involved range from not wanting to miss illiterate television programming to the detestable bromide of “nothing I do will make a difference.”

I argue term limits is nothing more than appeasing an apathetic voterate. I argue that term limits change nothing and that it is illogical to reason that they would. The idea of term limits gives the illusion of making a difference but in reality they are nothing more than sleight of hand. They are the action of political magicians that political neophytes applaud.

The problem isn’t how long politicians stay in office; the problem is the power and unconstitutional overreach of the federal government as a whole, and term limits do not address that.

Correcting the abrogation of power against the will and intent of the Constitution is not fixed nor corrected overnight. “Robert Drinan, former Member of Congress and Professor of Law at Georgetown University points out, term limits are the wrong cure to the wrong problem. Term limits will not make the rousing change that is expected of them. The problems that are behind the call for term limits are not a result of Members of Congress remaining in office for lengthy periods of time. The real problem lies in the use, or misuse, of power in the federal government and the distribution of power between our local and federal government. … The solution to this problem does not lie in limiting the terms of the people who can work with this power. The solution lies in restoring the power to where it should be, to the local governments.” (Why Term Limits Should be Opposed; Roger Beckett; April 1994)

An example of term limits is the presidency. Presidents serve two terms and out. Presidential term limits took us from Carter to President Reagan to Clinton to Obama.

Term limits would not have prevented NAFTA or obamacare; they would not have prevented Obama from increasing the national debt to $20 trillion. Term limits wouldn’t fix or challenge public schools nor would they protect us from Islamic terrorists. Term limits would not restore the Constitutional rights that were stolen from us under George Bush’s “Patriot Act.”

Changing what government has become is not an easy fix. Look at the resistance President Trump is facing trying to right the ship called “America” that the overwhelming majority of Americans readily admit is sinking.

Why aren’t the people who are clamoring for term limits attending their local government meetings? I have personal friends who serve in elected positions at local level tell me they can go a full year with no more than a handful of people showing up for each meeting.

Term limits do not hold the elected accountable but the very real threat of being voted out after one term certainly does. Term limits doesn’t prevent elected politicians from voting themselves raises, giving themselves special privileges, making bad deals, and passing terrible legislation. But a fully engaged public would.

The people calling for term limits should be fighting in their own states of domicile to prevent all out-of-state money that pours into local campaigns for local elections. Money pouring into the campaigns of candidates from those not residing in the state subverts and thwarts the will of the voters. If stopped it would allow the voters at state level to truly elect the candidate(s) of their choice. It would also allow competent candidates who do not have deep pockets to run on a fair playing field. This would also begin the real work of bringing the federal government under control.

Term limits simply change the focus of the true problem. They are nothing more than the work of political magicians getting voters to look at the empty hand while ignoring the hand with the knife in it that they will use to stab us in the back.

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52 Responses to Term Limits Will Solve Nothing

  1. Pamela Ward February 19, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

    I very respectfully disagree with you on this one, Mychal. Term limits would indeed end the detestable career politicians and force the voters to look anew to other candidates, as they should. They won’t do it otherwise. You are correct about the voters being lazy and gullible That’s the real problem and a massive one. I worked the voting polls for many years and it never ceased to amaze me that, when there was a Presidential election, the number of individual voters showing up to vote was exponential compared to, say, a midterm election where almost nobody showed up. That experience told me that voters consider themselves the utmost experts on who should be President but, like Hannity’s “man on the street” or “Watters World” they don’t seem to know much else. They don’t even consider the local elections important or know who is running in their locale. And still worse than that, they make no association that the candidates running in their own local level, from their own neighborhood or vicinity, are as important as the Presidential election. Local elections are the “nursery” for future politicians…..ya know, like President! It gets my dander up when I think of how drastically uninformed the voters are and it’s why they do prefer to complain, do nothing, and vote the same one in all the time. They don’t want to have to think decisively about it. That’s too hard. So the voters need a push???…Then Term Limits for all from the local level up!!! We have created our own royalty in this country without TL; instead we have not kings and queens, but a multitude of untitled princes and princesses, something our Founding Fathers would be rightfully roiled about. This is not what they stood for. Term Limits gets my vote.

    • Mychal Massie February 20, 2017 at 8:08 am #

      pamela ward: did term limits stop jimmy carter even though he was in office one term…we are suffering today because of his evil agenda…did term limits stop obama from the damage he did…how long the person stays is not the problem…it is what they do when they get there that counts…term limits are myopic and nothing more than appeasement to the apathetic…I do not believe we should change the constitution because a lazy uninvolved voterate refuses to do their duty as citizens…the problem is lack of states rights and overreach by the federal government…and term limits will not serve either of those things…as I and many others have warned: focusing on term limits is focusing on the wrong thing…

  2. Lee Sherman February 17, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    Mychal,
    TL would eliminate the root cause for campaign funding which allows corps or individuals to buy the candidates and control them. They don’t work for the common good under those conditions.
    TL should not exceed one. We would be much better off w/this system.

    • Mychal Massie February 17, 2017 at 12:55 pm #

      lee sherman: outside corporations and special interest money should be cut off from local level…as I wrote I believe that campaign donations should be strictly limited to coming from within the state only…that would correctly solve the problem you address…

  3. Irene February 15, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

    I was one who believed there should be term limits. But then again, maybe idiot voters deserve the leaders they chose? Term limits will not stop voters from re-electing the same type of “representatives”, and if they want the same lying, thieving, dishonest crooks representing them in Congress-all the while complaining how nothing changes-then maybe they deserve these leaders. The fact that the same characters are sent back to Washington D.C. only serves to show that perhaps voters are merely wanting the same type of politicians they themselves cannot admit they are, as well.

    • Margaret February 16, 2017 at 9:27 pm #

      What is lacking is not term limits, but personal responsibility on the part of voters. Voters need to think about what should become a priority in their lives – TV, movies, games, etc. or following the records of those in office and those seeking office that will shape the world they and their children will live in. Until voters assume personal responsibility nothing in Washington will change much.

      • Mychal Massie February 17, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

        margaret: you are exactly right…you make the very points I did in my piece…

    • Mychal Massie February 17, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

      irene: precisely part of the point I make…

  4. Bill Fullerton February 15, 2017 at 5:46 pm #

    I have been saying this for years,all term limits will do is give us new crooks every 2 terms. If the people refuse to pay attention to what their representatives are doing the outgoing guy will push a successor who will continue his evil work. On the other hand if we get someone in who is a patriot his enemies will know they just have to wait him out, we can’t count on replacing him with someone like minded because they are so hard to find. Many mention that long term office holders amass a war chest that makes them unbeatable, but that is only true if the people don’t pay attention to what they really do. I would hold up John McCain as an example, I shake my head every day in wonder at how the people of Arizona could continue to reelect him, no matter how much he spends it is plain to see what kind of man he has become

    • Mychal Massie February 17, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

      bill fullerton: you make excellent points all of which I agree with…

  5. Deb February 14, 2017 at 8:53 pm #

    In this day and age of the internet it’s too bad we can’t vote on legislation so that all of these raises and sweet retirement deals for the politicians don’t get passed, not to mention the plundering of the social security fund for bs.

    • Mychal Massie February 15, 2017 at 11:00 am #

      deb: the real lament should be that people are so apathetic…we cannot continue to change, modify, recreate the constitution in hopes that in so doing a vehicle will be created to do what the Constitution was created to do and/or by so doing the apathetic will become involved…

  6. Wendell Pool February 14, 2017 at 6:13 pm #

    This is the first of your great rants that I cannot completely agree with you on. Some good points. Especially an apathetic populous that often does not vote and is woefully uninformed.

    I do not know the solution for that except responsible educators and parents.

    But, the founding fathers never envisioned career politicians.

    My district US Rep, Lamar Smith, has been in office 34 years and has a massive war chest and is now a wealthy individual. He did not start out wealthy. He consistently votes with the establishment. When he rarely breaks ranks, it is because he is appeasing folks back home and the matter at hand will be defeated anyway. His reelection efforts always speak of the bills he introduced or co-sponsored. Most of those never made it through the process.

    • Mychal Massie February 15, 2017 at 11:04 am #

      wendell pool: if Trump could overcome the massive war chests 17 other candidates by spending less than a percentage of what several spent individually not to mention collectively the idea that smith is unbeatable is without merit…once again going to work on a local level to change the federal level is omitted in your response as it has been with others who have responded…

      • Wendell Pool February 15, 2017 at 11:18 am #

        We work heavily at the local level. I campaigned for Smith’s primary opponent in the last two primaries. We attend many local and state meetings. My wife is President of one of the states most active Republican women’s clubs . I support her heavily in that. We were both delegates to the last two state conventions, she for the last five. Yes, we involved.

        • Mychal Massie February 15, 2017 at 11:37 am #

          wendell pool: that is good to hear…replicate yourself in others and work to get more involved…I’m not saying it isn’t a daunting fact but I believe the Word of God in Galatians 6:9 (KJV)…

  7. Sherry Chapatwala February 14, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

    I prefer term limits. Of course, we have to do more than just change that fact.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

      sherry chapatwala: term limits won’t prevent bad people from being elected…but they will allow people to sit back and do more of nothing just as they are now only w/ term limits they can saay the person will be gone in “X” period of time…meanwhile they allow hundreds of millions of dollars to pour into local elections from out of state contributors and the same feckless politicians get elected…term limits would just insure that more worthless get elected for a shorter period of time…term limits would rob the people of seeing good candidates elected…

  8. Connie February 14, 2017 at 2:35 pm #

    What you’re saying and how you’re reasoning it out certainly makes sense; however, I am not totally on board with you just yet. What about the Supreme Court? Do you think people should be appointed for life?

    It’s the same thing with politicians. It’s not the length of time they serve, it’s the power they get while serving. The longer you serve, the more power you have…the more people listen…whether or not you’re right or wrong.

    I’m with you in that people need to get involved, I am amazed and appalled that people take so little interest in what’s going on in today’s world and with today’s politics. I live in a small town in Alabama and I haven’t heard of a political meeting here in town. If we had one, I certainly would attend. I totally agree that we, the people, should take full accountability for the doings of those we place in power. Like you so eloquently said….it’s the POWER…not necessarily the person.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:35 pm #

      connie: I think the wisdom of the Framers as laid out in the Constitution should be followed and adhered ti…apathy is fueling the cry for term limits…and the consequences for same if term limits are instituted will be incalculable…if people are apathetic now what can we expect if term limits are instituted…and as I point out term limits do absolutely nothing to curb governmental overreach which is the real problem…

  9. James Reed February 14, 2017 at 2:22 pm #

    I thank you Mr. Massie for these words of true wisdom. I was one who gave thought to term limits as well as many others. But after reading your article on this subject i thank you. It made me think an i find myself agreeing with you.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

      james reed: thank you for your honesty…

  10. V Clark February 14, 2017 at 12:27 pm #

    Outstanding arguments, food for thought. People need to take an active role in how we are governed.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:37 pm #

      v clark: term limits are just candy for the lazy…

  11. Bill Middleton February 14, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

    Thanks Mychal for your thoughtful article but I am not persuaded against Term Limits. In my opinion, all of the problems you mention are caused by the entrenched politicians who recognize that incumbents are overwhelmingly re-elected by virtue of their power of office so why would they be motivated to rock the boat of “business as usual”? As a result, we get 20 somethings deciding that they will go into politics for a lifelong career and we end up with a political class living in a cocoon and completely detached from the community they are supposed to serve. Look at how that worked out for Obama. We had an 8 year presidency by someone who was a “hollow suit” who had never held down a real job in his life. How can any politician really represent their constituents if they have never lived among them and shared their everyday challenges! I don’t believe the Founding Fathers ever anticipated career politicians. I believe they saw government service as an opportunity for civic minded citizens to make a temporary sacrifice serving their communities before returning to the real work of our society. A lifetime in politics is a rather selfish and disgraceful goal. I believe that many of the problems you identified at all levels of politics would be greatly resolved if those elected realized they had but a short time to serve. How truly motivated can a politician be after 20 years in the same job handing out favors in exchange for electoral support? Former Senator Harry Reid is my prime exhibit but there are so many like him. Thanks for your great articles and comments that are stimulating and mostly on the mark.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      bill middleton: did one term stop or curtail the damage jimmy carter did…term limits are not the answer…

      • Bill Middleton February 15, 2017 at 10:23 am #

        Mychal, of course it didn’t stop the Carter damage but how can one person who is term limited make any difference against thousands of other politicians who are not term limited. That is the problem. Cheers,

        • Mychal Massie February 15, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          bill middleton: I disagree…the problem is that politicians know there are no consequences for their actions…that problem is compounded by not working on the local level to make a difference…term limits are like God suddenly coming up with a new plan of Salvation because not enough people believe in Christ unto salvation…

  12. Beverly Woodburn February 14, 2017 at 11:19 am #

    Thanks Mychal more food for thought. I so agree with the fact that we fail at the local level, needs to change.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

      beverly woodburn: it all starts at the local level and people do not want to be inconvenienced by paying attention and being involved on the local level…because it would interfere with their television programming or their night out with the guys or the girls or they would rather just do something else…if term limits are instituted America will curse the day they are codified…

  13. John McClain February 14, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    I have to entirely agree with you, Mychal, I’ve stood on the same facts you’ve put forth since my high school years, having studied law, the constitution and the histories of several empires by that time, and having been immersed in the writings on our Founders, as were common in the early thirty’s, my dad’s books, read while I was living overseas.
    Two specific questions have always stood out as the exact reason for success, and the exact reason for our almost unsurmountable problems today. At one end of the Court house, Ben Franklin was asked by an Irish woman, who washed for a living, “well Mr. Franklin, what kind of government have you made for us, is it a monarchy, is there a king?”, and Mr. Franklin stated short, succinct, “we have formed a Republic, if ye can keep it”.
    Some time later, John Adams was asked much the same thing, and in particular, how it would function. His reply was to explain the union of states in a Federation, the States and people’s being sovereign, and his closing was thus: “this form of government is suited only for a moral, and a religious people, any other people require a tyrant, to drive them to do their duties.”
    Mr. Franklin’s answer, allowed the whole of the public to ruminate over what was given to them, and consider the ramifications; the responsibilities, the possibilities, and how it could work out.
    Mr. Adam’s answer delineated for a more educated set of questioners, the fundamental layout, but then focused on the fact “Sovereign States, ruled by Sovereign Citizens” must do all the duties that had here to fore been performed by kings, princes, aunts, uncles, the governments of those with power, and those duties were not very well enumerated to the general populace, as they had little impact on the general farmer, blacksmith and so forth, but he was speaking to the leaders of communities, who would, hopefully, serve to educate their fellow citizens, as to responsibilities, actions necessary, and the consequences of failing to hold the line exactly, all the time, without remorse or sorrow for those who failed to step up and do, but putting them out, and ensuring those elected to office, did and accomplished the fullness of “duty”.
    “A moral people” is a people who know right from wrong, well schooled in such, able to understand to the last “jot and tittle”. When Mr. Adams said “a religious people”, he was speaking in terms of a people who know what must be done, to continue their ways, and care enough about their ways to always leap to their duty, and enthusiastically embrace it, knowing that doing such is the only means of maintaining “citizen sovereignty”.
    No politician stole their office, though many have tried, HRC the most recent, however, if we, “The People” aren’t schooled sufficiently, if we don’t have the facts of the day well in hand, and understood, we aren’t capable of self-rule, so his statement of “religious” was not about his religion, or Mr. Jefferson’s or George Washington’s, but about “the religious ferver” which has served to keep Christianity moving and expanding, the reaching high, striving for better work tomorrow, this was what he was stating those surrounding him at the moment, had to consider, and ensure remained, if we would keep the same republic.
    The simple fact is, the nature of socialism has always been around, as long as there have been people who believed themselves superior, and better suited for laying around, thinking and directing, than actually working themselves. In the 1830’s, Europe was done with the wars of socialist instigation, called into being by the cacaphony of fools, with no notion of reason, only passions for “fair”, and with such a nature in multiple nations, wars begin for no reason at all, and America was ready and willing to accept all the socialists run out of Europe, right in time to establish the first State education system, as the Louisianna purchase was being considered, Jefferson, Lewis, Clark, and a host of advisors, planning to lay out the territory out immediately, that it could be also measured and the number and form of states be established on the foundation of the expedition’s rough survey’s, accomplished by the best to be found at the time.
    This is why our education systems have been twisted and tortured throughout modern history, and in large, why so much propaganda was produced setting up for what would come out a “civil war”.
    Socialism is antithetical to reason and all understanding of human nature. Plato postulated “The Republic”, but couldn’t reason out the socialist demands, and rightfully dismissed them out of hand. There have been a dozen full complete republics functionally as ours was, and none lasted past the “comfort and ease” the populace got accustomed to, and they were conquered in short order the moment war was declared on them.
    If we need “term limits”, we simply haven’t done our duty. If we imposed such, we would consider it fixed, and become even lazier. John McCain has been in the Senate for so long because his constituents won’t recognise he is elected by the money infused by corporate interests in the military industrial complex, and represents them, without negatively impacting them, because less than 1% of Americans ever serve on active duty, and less than a quarter of that ever see war, even as we have had continuous war, ongoing, clandestinely, from before the end of Vietnam, to this very day.
    We do have an “American Empire”, while we ‘elect’ our senators, our States ceased to be sovereign, as they no longer were or are represented in congress. While we ‘elect’ constantly, we only get to choose which of the proffered candidates, not send a deliberately chosen, well skilled and prepared member of our community, to the People’s House and be represented, we must choose from among the “allowed”.
    This past election is by no means the only example of “The People” getting angry sufficiently to ignore the “deep state”, and having put Mr. Trump in office, we can’t turn and walk away, expecting Him to fix everything. If that is what we want, we need to hold a plebecite, and see if we would choose him as King, in which case we could then go back to our knitting and our work, without any responsibility.
    If we don’t want to own ourselves, as “sovereign citizens”, if we aren’t willing to know the facts, cast out the liars, tar and feather them running them out on a rail, raise up the truth, no matter how painful, and deal with the reality of an hundred years of crony corporatism we’ve allowed to become “the deep state”, we should have let the evil queen take the office.
    We can’t have “the United States of America” as our constitution describes, except that the majority of us choose to serve, and none of us allow lies, unprincipled ideas, antithetical notions even be raised, but we must cleave exactly to the letter and the spirit of founding, no less than we must believe to the letter and spirit, the Ten Commandments, to be really “Christians”.
    On both counts, we need strong, well explicated education for the majority, as so many have been taught “thou shalt not kill”, when that is a lie, it is properly translated as “thou shalt not commit murder”, this taking only one of the commandments which has been twisted, to be useful to socialists.
    A people who would be both Free and illiterate, want something that never has been, and never can be. Every people who have ever chosen to “rest on their collective laurels” has been overtaken, not conquered, by those who see the best of what is there, and see no reason not to go and take it, along with those who know how to produce it, and own them, to ensure they don’t lose their assets. “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it wants what never was and never can be” best said by Thomas Jefferson.
    Either we rule, by doing and performing all the duties of ruling, or we allow those who will, to assume their place, and expect us to return them time and again, and we will because the longer we live as this, the farther away our principle recede.
    Semper Fidelis,
    John McClain
    GySgt, USMC, ret.
    Vanceboro, NC

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

      john mcclain: as always well you have spoken…

  14. Holly DeVos February 14, 2017 at 10:55 am #

    Term limits won’t solve much of the problem unless honest, industrious, noble people are running for office to replace those leaving. “If only jerks run for office, only jerks will be elected.”

    • Sherry Chapatwala February 14, 2017 at 3:36 pm #

      The problem is we have too many people who have been misinformed/brainwashed by teachers/professors following the example of Saul Alinsky. Others are in their comfort zones and don’t want to keep up with what is going on or get involved; some say America will not fall while others say we can’t change the thinking of other people with different views. I am an Independent who was told by an older relative years ago he would vote Democrat no matter who is running. In spite of my youth, I was appalled by his thinking.

      • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:45 pm #

        sherry chapatwala: point well made…

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 3:44 pm #

      holly devos: which makes the point that the jerks in office are being elected and reelected by the same people clamoring for term limits…

      • Holly DeVos February 16, 2017 at 10:47 pm #

        Exactly. We can’t assume that just because someone is running for office, that he/she is trustworthy, but term limits WILL rotate the jerks more often (i.e., the McCains, Pelosis, Reids, etc.) and maybe slow down the bad legislation.

        • Mychal Massie February 17, 2017 at 1:02 pm #

          holly devos: besides the fact that I disagree w/ your premise…I disagree because term limits are nothing more than appeasement to laziness, apathy, and ambivalence…

  15. Joan Taber February 14, 2017 at 10:46 am #

    Not much of a reply here; however, “States Rights,” strongly come to my mind. Putting the power into the hands of the people start here.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:49 am #

      joan taber: the power is in the hand of the people they just do not understand that…

  16. Renee February 14, 2017 at 10:31 am #

    Your absolutely right Mychal. We can correlate this topic with the exit of Barack Obama from office. Even thoug this cretin was inconspicuously voted out of office through the lackluster presidential campaign of heir apparent, “Crooked Hillary” Clinton, he is still lurking from behind like a dark shadow, while encouraging his slavish adorers into rallying about, in order to try and delegitimize President Trump’s legacy!

    President Trump makes the mistake in speaking glowingly about this sinister anarchist who many intelligent conservatives are well aware, had no intention of bowing out gracefully while assisting our newly elected president into making a smooth transition into office! With the financial support of George Soros’ “blood money”, Obama is strategically orchestrating a “shadow government” in order to sabotage President Trump’s administaration.

    It is he who is acting as the official mastermind behind these staged protests in which “fake news” media outlests, like CNN, MSNBC, PBS and all of the other discredited local lettered news enterprises are dishonestly legitimizing in order to discredit President Trump! Obama, a student of the sinister tactics of Saul Alinsky who specialized in devising tactics as a means “overthrowing our nation’s government”, is the first president in the history of this nation who despite leaving office is secretly working on the sidelines in order to undermine the newly elected president!

    He is getting away with rallying a bunch of well trained Alinsky ignoramuses like himself, to publicly display fake outrage against President Trump and every executive order in which he mandates! Barack Obama is even more dangerous now, since leaving office than when he was running our nation into the gutter during his 8 year reign of terror! Unless President Donald Trump publicly denounces those two foreign sinister terrorists, Barack Obama and George Soros, then he will be able to successfully sabotage his presidential tenure while the do-nothing RINO establishment continues to stand on the sideline while granting him immunity, based on his racial make up just as they have throughout his wreckless 8 year leadership!

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:36 am #

      renee: excellent points…that said there are times when it is easier to speak kind of a person and let them speak ill of you and thus do themselves more harm…he can later say he tried and they refused…

  17. Christin Hale February 14, 2017 at 10:25 am #

    ….and keep up the good works!

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:37 am #

      christin hale: thank you much…

  18. Christin Hale February 14, 2017 at 10:24 am #

    I agree but for a different reason. Term limits would increase the already stifling power of the totally unelected bureaucracy. Rapid turnover of elected legislators would make the power of the monolithic central government impossible to rein in.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:38 am #

      christin hale: you hammer home my point…

  19. Dennis McCutcheon February 14, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    Hmmm interesting. Will have to contemplate. I have been part of the cacophony of voices for term limits.
    Blessings on you and your family brother

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:40 am #

      dennis mccutcheon: ditto to you and yours my friends…term limits do not save us from carter, clinton, bush, or obama…

  20. Ruth February 14, 2017 at 9:47 am #

    No different term limits so that great senators and representatives can serve long. Continue to find solutions to getting the “past their shelf life” politicians out of office. State by state.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:41 am #

      ruth: i do not understand your point…

  21. Mike February 14, 2017 at 9:45 am #

    I agree with many of your positions but not this one, and in this case I can state the reason in two words: JOHN McCAIN. 1) How can we “prevent all out-of-state money that pours” into his re-election campaigns? If we could have we would have. 2) This RINO is America’s poster child for term limits. But thanks to his military cronies and the vet card that he plays, we may very well be stuck with him until the Lord imposes the ultimate term limit on him.

    P.S. As a further matter of speculation, one wonders what the election result might have been had Obama been eligible to run for a third term. I have some idea, and let’s just say I’m grateful that we do have term limits for that office.

    • Mychal Massie February 14, 2017 at 10:48 am #

      mike: you miss the point…did term limits help us with obama…did term limits and a one year term stop carter from destroying the balance in the middle east by betraying Pahlavi and giving rise to the ayatollahs, creating the dept of education, ad nauseum…the old adage applies: you can change the rules but you cannot change the ramifications or the consequences for doing same…taking the easy way out solves nothing…bending the law to do what we the people should do is not the answer…

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