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Another Act Of Betrayal

In 2009 Phyllis Schlafly resigned herself to the fact that Democrats cannot be trusted when Bart Stupak, the self-professed, pro-life Congressman from Michigan, cast his lot in support of Obama’s healthcare bill: Despite the fact that Obamacare provided for forced compliance of taxpayer-funded abortion.

I also need to point out that if these traitorous Republicans are willing to let Norquist know, via public pronouncements on leftist programming, that they will not honor their oaths, they are sending the message that they believe they can do so with impunity.

It now appears that Grover Norquist is about to find out you cannot trust Republicans either.

Norquist is the president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR). ATR has urged lawmakers to sign their pledge promising to not raise taxes. While some 258 combined House and Senate Republicans have signed the pledge — the Republican leadership is publicly indicating they now have other ideas. I’m inclined to argue that Obama’s golf outings with John Boehner continue to bear fruit, but I digress.

Boehner’s ever-present shadow, Eric Cantor, (R-VA), is the majority leader in the House and purports himself to be an anti-tax advocate. But on Monday, Cantor appeared on MSNBC telling their program hosts and audiences that he isn’t married to the oath he signed not to raise taxes. He used the tried-and-true fallback of all those like him, when they decide to betray the people. He used the old line “the people want” blah-blah-blah.

The problem with what Cantor said is that he is lying. The people of Virginia sent him to Congress to act in a fiscally responsible way, and raising taxes is neither fiscally responsible nor is it why the people trusted him after he signed Norquist’s pledge promising not to raise taxes.

Cantor is not alone in this betrayal. House member Peter King, (R-NY), and Senator Lindsey “Goober” Graham, (R-SC), have also gone on leftist slanted programming saying they would break their signed oath not to raise taxes.

Graham has matter-of-factly stated he would break his oath without hesitation if Democrats agreed to cut entitlement programs. It’s hard to say whether he believes us to be stupid or if he is suffering from one to many liquescent afternoons. He has got to be aware that even if there are to be austerity cuts they would pale in comparison to the raising of taxes. There isn’t a snowball’s chance in the desert that Graham’s eager willingness to betray his constituents will be rewarded in kind by Democrats.

That said, what sense does it make to have austerity cuts and then raise taxes?

Peter King told “Meet the Press” this past Sunday that he doesn’t feel bound by his oath because “the world has changed” since he signed it. The world has changed since the changed since 9/11 as well does that mean we should just ignore what Muslims did that day?

Cantor doesn’t take a drink of water without Boehner okaying it first. My point being that you can bet there is more than idle “I don’t knows, we’ll have to sees, and best interest of the peoples” on Boehner’s part. Cantor wouldn’t be considering the betrayal of his signed promise not to raise taxes if Boehner weren’t preparing to do the same thing.

In the meantime, John McCain is busy doing the Fox News program tour, telling conservatives to shut-up about abortion. Which is his way of saying publicly that he is willing to flip on the abortion issue. He is also blathering the latest GOP talking points of “we need a bigger tent” and immigration reform which means GOP support amnesty for illegal aliens cannot be far off. He also called conservatives “contrarians,” accusing us of having a negative agenda. Oh, and lest I forget, he is also softening his tough-talk rhetoric about Susan Rice and her potential nomination for Secretary of State — in case Obama follows through on his plan to reward her for the lies she told the days following the murders of Christopher Stevens, Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty, and Sean Smith in Benghazi.

Republicans and the GOP hierarchy cannot be trusted. They are not as good as liberal Democrats. We expect Democrats to be liars and to act in ways that are antithetical to our values, but we do not expect that from those who claim to be on our side.

I also need to point out that if these traitorous Republicans are willing to let Norquist know, via public pronouncements on leftist programming, that they will not honor their oaths, they are sending the message that they believe they can do so with impunity.

They are counting on us having short memories, and they believe they are in safe districts. I’m not sure what bludgeon Grover Norquist will use to knock them off their high-horses, but you and I must–more so than ever–commit to the resolve that they must go.

If we cannot trust Boehner, McCain, Cantor, King, Graham, (I’m speaking of Orin Hatch and others hiding in the bushes who are also planning to break their oath not to raise taxes) to keep this fundamental standard, how can we trust at all?

I have been warning you that those referenced above are not our friends, and that they cannot be trusted. And they are doing their best to prove me right.

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68 Responses to Another Act Of Betrayal

  1. Just Me December 7, 2012 at 1:42 pm #

    1) Outlaw lobbying. Make it the BRIBERY that it is, punishable and ENFORCED EQUALLY.

    2) The law that makes insider trading illegal, does NOT say except for congress! It excuses NO ONE. ENFORCE it.

    3) Find a way to MAKE them ALL abide by the constitution, thus outlawing the Czars, congress handing it’s powers over to the likes of bureaucrats like EPA, DHS, etc. Outlaw EO’s, confirmations when congress is recessed. etc. etc. etc.

    4) We need to find a way to make everyone at every level, fed, state, county, rich, poor, etc., ALL abide by the VERY SAME laws, with the VERY SAME enforcement and the VERY SAME punishments! We are ALL EQUAL, so find a way to ENFORCE being equal. Use that book, forget name, of how people go to gov’t without money and end up RICH beyond their wildest dreams!

    5) We NEED a way to enforce the constitution and laws already on the books! There has GOT to be the 3 branches doing their CONSTITUTIONAL jobs again. Of course, it would help if education taught just how wonderful the Constitution actually is, and what a GREAT country this actually was and could be, when and if it was FOLLOWED. Which means CLEAN OUT/UP our education system! Maybe just dump dept of ed all together. Or some way to get the progs OUT of their stranglehold of brainwashing our youth!!

    Side note: I’ve never understood, if they don’t like it here, why do they stay? If they hate our gov’t, our country, why don’t they just leave? If they love socialism, why don’t they move to a socialist country? And how do they reconcile the fact that so many want to come here, if it’s actually as bad as they are being taught/told?

    6) Then there’s their ludicrous idea of the constitution being living breathing, crap. If that were true, then it would mean whatever someone would want it to mean, not what it actually says or meant to say. So then it could mean one thing to a policeman, something else to a judge, something else to an attorney, something else to another judge, etc. So that would result in there actually being no rule of law at all, because none would be able to be followed/obeyed because no one would actually know what they meant and everyone would have a differing idea of what they mean. Therefore, we need a constitutional amendment that says; the constitution, and all laws, mean what they say and say what they mean, period. That is the ONLY way they can possibly be obeyed! If they are bad laws to begin with, they will eventually be voided in court(s) or with constitutionally allowed ways. But in order to be able to follow/obey them, they MUST mean what they say and say what they mean. This idea of living breathing bull crap would mean we are basically just lawLESS.

    7) Also, the courts/country using “case law” as a basis, instead of THE ORIGINAL constitution, ORIGINAL law, and the CASE BEFORE THEM, is also bull. What “case law” means is that NO ONE is EVER actually getting THEIR DAY in court. They are getting OTHER PEOPLE’S days in court! They are getting OTHER PEOPLE’S attorneys, OTHER PEOPLE’S prosecutors, OTHER PEOPLE’S judge(s), etc. And if a case goes to court and is ruled a certain way, but it kind of doesn’t jive with the law as written, then the next case may be ruled based on that case, and case after case you get further and further and further AWAY from the initial INTENT of the ACTUAL LAW and/or CONSTITUTION.

    So those things changed would go a long long way. And ENFORCEMENT. That’s what we need is ENFORCEMENT. EQUALLY. ALL. No matter WHO or WHAT you are!

    • Mychal Massie December 7, 2012 at 6:10 pm #

      just me: nothing can be addressed until we divorce ourselves from karl rove and the rnc…and stop sending the same failed losers back to elected office…we must be involved on every level from local to federal…but it takes time, energy, and some financial investment…but most of all it takes willingness…

  2. AndyR November 28, 2012 at 8:24 pm #

    What would it take to implement term limits?? The founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence and intended for congressmen and senators to “serve” their time and then return home and go back to work. I personall think they should serve two terms… one in congress/senate, one in prison.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:23 pm #

      andyr: we have defacto term limits…vote them out…

  3. r. woods November 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm #

    Mychal,
    Excellent rant my friend, you lit the fire, Gunny McClain has fanned the flames! My hat is off to both of you!

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:28 pm #

      r. woods: John McClain is a long time reader and personal friend…he is one of the most pro-america eloquent essayists I can point to…he would be my first choice to have my back in battle…

  4. Chris Miller November 28, 2012 at 6:04 pm #

    Excellent post, my friend.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:30 pm #

      chris miller: thks much partner…

  5. Mindy Robinson November 28, 2012 at 10:34 pm #

    We fight a losing battle until the sheeple stop being sheeple. Almost every gov official, starting at the local level needs to go. The repub and dem parties are corrupt. Time to
    boot them. Our power is or at leat used to be in voting. Get rid of the dem and repub parties – time to try a new party. How many times are we going to keep repeating this.
    joke of electing in corruption? What is the definition of insanity?

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm #

      mindy robinson: I am in absolute agreement…100 percent…

  6. Stormrider900 November 28, 2012 at 1:43 pm #

    Same old bait and switch. Might as well have a bunch of snake oil salesmen representing us. Then again to compare snake oil salesmen to these posers is tantamount to maligning the noble profession of sales. Perhaps I should have instead, used the class of sub-humans known as career criminals. But what the heck do I know?

    • Annie Hamer November 28, 2012 at 8:13 pm #

      “Might as well have a bunch of snake oil salesmen representing us.” Don’t we already?
      Here we find another besmirchment on this blog: those poor, honest, and forever-hardworking snake oil venders. You do bring a question to mind–what exactly do you know about career criminals? ; )

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:36 pm #

      stormrider900: they are the very definition of snake oil salesmen…

  7. Marilyn November 28, 2012 at 1:02 pm #

    H Clinton and a few others just as equivocal. Voted for war in Iraq then decided the war in Iraq was a waste of time and money. McCain should be a true gentleman but from reports he backs a candidate then digs up dirt to throw in the canidates face. Politicos just follow what will make them look good no matter if they believe in what they are saying. I guess I’m sick and tired of bailing out Congress after they make laws or rules that cannot possibly be realized. We do have a few Congressmen/lady who has head screwed on right but the rest are computer card players collecting tax payer’s money.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:39 pm #

      marilyn: you have said a mouthful…and john mccain is miserable little person playing hero…

  8. John McClain November 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

    Folks, we are not in our present predicament because a number of minor issues has separated our elected from the responsibilities we thrust upon them, and their difficulty finding common ground. We are headed at full speed to the death of our Nation because those we elect cannot be trusted to keep their word, and we continue to elect the same faces, even while they lie, cheat and steal.
    There is only one issue at hand, and that is the one of “principle”. Every bit of our “National Problems” is a result of our disregard of principle. It is easy enough to call out the Eric Cantor and the John Boehner, for breaking their oath, and blame it on them, but we set the stage for it.
    The fact we even allow any elected official return to office after having lied, is our own loss of principle. I don’t care who supports a specific member, if we were “a moral and religious people” we would more avidly cast out our own “elected”, being more angry at “our own” than we would be about the others.
    It is “We, The People” who are willing to keep our representative in office, even when he or she doesn’t keep their word, and it is we, The People, who accept the hand-outs, and gifts from government, and re-elect criminals, for the free handout.
    We cannot choose to get our sh** together by deciding we are going to “incrementally change things until everyone is happy”, that is a lie told by fools to garner support for idiocy.
    We did not become this nation by our war of independence, we merely became 13 States, bound together by some basic and simple agreements, “codified in our confederation of states”, and we went forward almost two years as such.
    We became “The United States of America” only when we realized “no form” could ever keep us secure and with a common goal and purpose, we had to have a planned, specific form, with carefully designed institutions, in order to have a functional “Nation”, and to do so, we had to establish the rule of Law over any form we chose, as history tells us, every form of government is subject to take-over by evil men, and become a tyranny.
    All the purpose of the Constitution was to establish the exact and limited institutions necessary to fulfill the sole legitimate purpose of government, according to our National Creed, and of greatest importance in this establishing of a clear, cogent and specific rule of law over government, was the exacting words providing specific, exact limits of power such government may ever under any circumstances, wield, and at the same time, providing the legal and physical means of The People, to constrain the expected “Federal Government” to its exact specified limits.
    We, “The People” have forsaken our Sovereign Duty to keep and bear such arms as are superior to those of Government, and sufficient to keep government in fear of “The Sovereign Citizens” whose authority is only lent, “during times of good behavior” to said government, strictly for the exact and limited purposes stated, written and signed for all “The People” by representatives.
    We no longer will stand on personal independence as a moral responsibility we expect every citizen to take when they choose to assume adulthood. This is a cultural failure, either our culture is founded on principle, including personal independence, or it has no foundation.
    We don’t accept the republican principle of “all such law, which is acceptable to all, and no law or rule which is not unanimously acclaimed”, the sole means of having any form of true Sovereignty as Citizens, and by this, real freedom.
    As a Nation, we have accepted democratic principle for law, where majority rules, even while this form clearly violates the founding principles, because this allows a “mere majority” to rule over a minority on issues which are not rightfully in the venue of government, but have been put before it by “the majority”.
    Republican principle is the notion government has a set and sole legitimate purpose, and every other act allowed it, violates this.
    We established a republic’s revenue source, providing for taxes to support the necessary instruments of government, with all taxes being paid voluntarily, and the amount paid being voluntary, by exclusive “excise taxes” as sole revenue source.
    With this system, only imported goods could be taxed, and the government had cause to work to increase our productivity by providing a good business environment, because we can’t import goods, to be taxed, without having goods to be traded, to get imports. The more Americans made, the more money we had to buy preferencial foreign goods, and thus choose to pay the excise tax to have our luxuries.
    Our elected could not hand out presents, they did not have but barely the revenue to meet the requirements, and had to make choices, paying bills, not buying votes, or using government revenue on articles of beneficent, as so many were voted down in our first years.
    There is a fiscal cliff for government, because it can do nothing without revenue, not even pay themselves. It is a bald faced lie to say our Nation faces such a cliff, I stand on principle, and state, categorically, the so called “national debt” no more belongs to “The People who are The Nation”, than “We, The People” have chosen what to go in debt for, and who we choose to wage war upon, and who we will give gifts to”.
    If we hold the line, refuse to allow our government to raise the debt ceiling, threatening them not with election or angry letters, but with impeachment and summary removal, with our taking them out of office physically, if necessary, we, ordinary people, can continue our lives, using what ever is acceptable between ourselves to exchange value and get our needs, and can well refuse any taxes for what we declare a criminal government.
    At that point, the government must use such revenue as it still accesses, specifically to avoid collapse, and must turn to us, “The Nation which is The People”, and either capitulate, or prepare for a civil disobedience at the least, and revolution if those in government are foolish enough to believe they can break us before we break them.
    The debt we are confronted with belongs specifically to all those who have served in Congress, as president, and in the judiciary, all of whom have been complicit in routine violation of all founding principle, and turning government into a pre-packaged assembly of professional liars, cheats and thieves.
    We established fixed value of gold and silver coin as money, every other form is at best a convenience based on our own trust, as in a check, or certificate of deposit, and as worthy as those responsible for its issue.
    On a fixed monetary system, national debt is limited to the amount of real money some person or nation will physically transfer to us, in exchange for interest payments and payments of principle, assuring our lender of our will to repay.
    With the world operating on fiat currencies, all governments feel free to borrow without right, to lend without authority, to manipulate markets and prices with impunity, fiat currencies are paper lies about economics, and nothing more.
    As long as this Nation will accept a criminal government, ruling without any true authority, we shall be enslaved by their ever increasing their debt, and calling it ours.
    The moment we “as A People, The Nation”, state it is not our debt, but that of the persons in office, We, as a Nation hold no monetary obligations, but those made in cash, gold and silver, our government is cut off from borrowing, because foreign lenders know the source of all revenue; The People.
    At one time, we were far enough from our first principles to need revolution, yet still close enough to our founding to have such, and retain the vision of “free and independent”. We have now reached the point it doesn’t matter if we can retain our principles or not, we must end the game, because it is not ours. We, as a People, are no more than the revenue source, and the game, life its self, is owned by government, by these very statements refuting their oaths, telling us precisely, they can choose to change the rules any time they wish to.
    It is not about the debt anymore, it is all about whether there will be a republican United States of America four, five, or ten years from now, or if we will sit by and allow the communist controlled government move us into a subjugation under world government based on “pretend debt, incurred deliberately for our destruction”, and our accepting responsibility for it, merely because they tell us to.
    If we would have a nation in the near future, we must cast off this government, cast it loose, it is not ours, its debt is not ours, and we must realize we do this, close the door and hold honest money alone, and let them deal with their own contemporaries among the world, while we set our Nation back under the rule of law, The Constitution, call the illegal central government what it is, and apprehend it, incarcerate it, and begin our new era on the foundation set by that first Continental Congress, choosing “special elections” with the singular stipulation, no one who has ever served can be elected, and at the same time, having chosen for each of our own selves, beforehand, we will be principled, truth will be our only firm foundation, and return to our original form.
    If we don’t do this, taking extreme and dramatic action, we will spend the next years doing everything in our power to avoid tax as much as possible, as it doubles its burden, then triples and quadruples, because every bit of increase in taxes is increasing incentive to avoid such, and also to avoid others we commonly accepted, when they were “sufficient”.
    Once government reaches the point it must ever increase its means of revenue, continually, this is the sign its means of inflation has exceeded the means of profit, and it must, by natural law, fall into exponential inflation, something which is totally irrational, because there is no way to suggest a way to have exponential profits, necessary to meet such taxes.
    We have passed that point, by definition, our dollar is valued at less than half a cent in reality, from its established value, and we are already in “exponential inflation”, but won’t fully feel the effects until the dollar is no longer “reserve” for anyone but ourselves. At that moment, we will watch a perceived value some four times its real value, in the moment the change is announced, drop that four times value.
    If we stop government, take control, and re-establish real money, we can prevent the collapse, and while we would be hated for long for doing so, who ever recognizes the truth first will be the least impacted by the depression which must follow to balance out bad debt, bad market selections and choices, and allow a true “free market” to control its self. If we are not the first Nation to do so, we will at best, be first losers, and then, only if we leap at the head of the line which will form immediately.
    We have the choice, return to principle, and survive, or we can continue on, and we will become a subject nation with the U.N. as world government, and we will fight foreign armies in our own streets, because they will come to disarm America, an armed people cannot be ruled by tyrants with impunity. It is “truth or die”, as simple as that. The world has not changed, only people have. We will choose our grandchildren’s destiny in the next months and our choice will reverberate though time.
    Sincerely,
    John McClain
    GySgt, USMC, ret.
    Vanceboro, NC

    • Stormrider900 November 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm #

      Gunny, what a simple, straight forward lesson in law, economics, ethics, and Constitution. Those who can not understand this, I suspect, never will. Thank you, Sir.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:35 pm #

        stormrider900: amen…

    • Wakinyan November 28, 2012 at 4:04 pm #

      Outstanding treatise Gunny! Also agree with Stormrider that those who cannot or will not understand the truths you have clearly laid out before them never will. They will be the downfall of this nation however they will never, never acknowledge their own responsibility and will lay the blame for the suffering they we will all incur on the shoulders of others.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:34 pm #

        wakinyan: agreed…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

      john mcclain: your second paragraph nails it on the head…

  9. sam c November 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    When all is said and done, the DEMS win. It’s on their backs. I know that in the Senate that if just a few Reps. cross over and it’s tied at 49 Reps to 50 Dems; good ole Biden gets to be the tie breaker and it falls on the Democrates back. I don’t know who would be the tie
    breaker in the House, but if they do the same and Dems break the tie; then the monkey is on their backs. Look at the tax seniors pay on SS that was taxed when they paid into it and now pay 15% on their earnings. Credit Al Gore for that (hence Clinton DEMS). You will never convince the 60% that want this increase; they don’t ever see themselves of being able to make $250,000. annually.
    That, also, goes to the students from the last four years and the next fours of college grads. They think they are going to get a fantastic job just because they went to college and graduated.
    Doesn’t make any difference what they majored in. In my 40 years of working with just a high school education, I’ve trained and and forgotten more than some of these twits will ever learn. They think they should make the big bucks just for that little piece of paper that didn’t cost $5.00 to print it.
    If the Dems win and the S*** hits the fan; then it’s on them and Obama.

    • sam c November 28, 2012 at 12:50 pm #

      My mistake, I mean that 50 Reps and 50 Dems. Biden breaks the tie.
      Sorry

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:40 pm #

        sam c: no prob…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:42 pm #

      sam c: it’s on all of them…they are all guilty…both dems and repubs…

  10. Wakinyan November 28, 2012 at 12:25 pm #

    Seems to me that if the actions of these people rather than the D.C. double-speak speeches they make haven’t awakened enough in conservative America to demand their removal at least from positions of “leadership” (what a joke that is) in the Republican machine then nothing will. Since they cannot be trusted to keep their word on a principle as fundamental as not raising taxes or forcing taxpayers to pay for abortions, they certainly can not be trusted not to cave in on everything else obama and his communist cronies want to do. We have been, are being and will be, betrayed by a deeply rooted cabal of elected and appointed traitors and on 6 November 2012 we passed the point where cleaning them out using the ballot box will ever be possible. In my opinion that only leaves two options: (1) cowardly submission or (2) take our government back the hard way no matter what it costs. Has America as a whole become so soft and indoctrinated on big brother government that the price required to return to our Constitution and the rule of law it frames will be deemed too steep to pay for the legacy we leave for our descendants to live with? Regretfully, with some notable exceptions it does appear so.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:44 pm #

      wakinyan: the ballot box works if we make it work…

  11. Lumara Lee November 28, 2012 at 4:09 pm #

    There is little to no different between the two major parties, and neither is looking out for the people. None of these politicians are abiding by their oath to uphold the Constitution, which means they are traitors. They all need to be replaced with decent people who will follow the law and not create laws that violate it.

    • Kathleen Makkreel November 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm #

      We need to focus om education. By that I don't mean throwing more money at education, I mean dismantling it and getting better education into schools. Kids don't have the slightest clue about history, and if you don't know history you are going to surely repeat it. Also if you are turning out future teachers, you are going to get worse and worse teachers. They can only impart what they know and nothing more. Then the next generation will be more dumbed down and so on.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:32 pm #

        kathleen makkreel: heck the teachers don’t have a clue about factual history…

    • Chris M. Miller November 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm #

      Well said. Will we now found a true conservative party.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm #

        chris m. miller: I’m ready to work for same…I’m already calling for it…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:48 pm #

      lumara lee: you are exactly right…on what reason grounds can a john mccain and those like him be reelected…and if karl rove and his rnc cronies hadn’t pushed a candidate who was a new england moderate obama wouldn’t have won…

  12. Barbara Swisher November 28, 2012 at 4:00 pm #

    How can you remember Viet Nam when you're getting stabbed in the back today? I've never trusted or liked John McCain.

    • Kathleen Makkreel November 28, 2012 at 11:03 pm #

      John McCain runs in a Republican state so what better to call himself than a Republican? However his voting record in Congress is about 98% Democrat

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:30 pm #

        kathleen makkreel: very well said…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:49 pm #

      barbara swisher: I remember Vietnam very well…and ditto per john mccain…

  13. Dorothea November 28, 2012 at 10:03 am #

    I want to know what kind of quid pro quos are going on in Washington? Somebody has to be paying off somebody or are these Republicans that stupid.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:55 pm #

      dorothea: look at the benefits they are getting…they’re paying themselves off…

  14. Carol Osborne Mason November 28, 2012 at 2:36 pm #

    Although I don't trust McCain, I think he has a valid point about abortion. I believe Republicans should market themselves as the party of economic growth and prosperity. I've never felt it was appropriate for the federal government to have its nose in abortion anyway; I think it should be left to the states.

    • JoAnn Turner November 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm #

      Killing off our population is not an issue? There is no economic growth without people and if the abortion rate continues as it is, there won't be any people left tax! Getting rid of babies and old people is the economic policy of the future. We allow born alive abortion babies to die but that is okay? If all those children killed in the womb were born and killed at age 1 the outcry would be so loud it would move mountains. If we don't respect life and natural death we respect nothing.

      • Sunny Vee November 28, 2012 at 7:31 pm #

        I agree with you, JoAnn! Think how different this country would be with the 50 million missing citizens who were murdered by abortion!

        • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

          sunny vee: amen…

      • Annie Hamer November 28, 2012 at 10:16 pm #

        Jo Ann,

        As you may know, Pete Singer, one of the best-known philosophers/bioethecists in the world and a bioethics prof’ at Princeton, advocates infanticide. Obama’s former Regulatory Czar, Cass Sunstein, defends infanticide, as well.(Sunstein being a devotee of Singer’s.) It is noised about that Sunstein played a role in formulating Obamacare. It certainly has the philosophy of utilitarianism bound into it. The pro-life position should make much out of the Singer/Sunstein et al philosophy which logically must hold the position that a fetus and newborn infant are equal. I don’t know that, on the whole, they are taking advantage of this but they should.

        • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:22 pm #

          annie hamer: point made…

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:45 pm #

        joann turner: well said…

    • Marilyn November 28, 2012 at 12:43 pm #

      Exactly, Carol! I think it should be a State issue and not Federal

      • Sunny Vee November 28, 2012 at 7:33 pm #

        Abortion should not be state of federal—it should be illegal! Now that birth control pills are “free”, why should abortion be needed?

        • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm #

          sunny vee: good point…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:58 pm #

      carol osborne mason: I totally disagree…someone has to standup for the unborn…

  15. Rita Metzger November 28, 2012 at 2:13 pm #

    These people forget that 67,000,000 people voted for Romney and the Republican platform. What happened to keeping the conscience of the people in tact.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:59 pm #

      rita metzger: I would express it differently…

  16. Patricia M McBride November 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm #

    McCain should have been voted out in his last election, but the people of Arizona sent him back yet again instead of putting someone in they didn't like even though the other guy would have probably kept his word. How they could keep putting this rogue man back in time and again is beyond me. He is no friend of the people period and changes his stripes as quickly as a lizard…………………….

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm #

      patricia m mcbride: you are absolutely right…

  17. Ben November 28, 2012 at 9:04 am #

    All they care about is power and how much money they can skim using corrupt policies. They need to be voted out or we will never recover. Everything they do is for show, giving speeches, all the while plotting their corruption.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:09 pm #

      ben: you are spot on and absolutely correct…

  18. john rusnak November 28, 2012 at 8:53 am #

    RINOS…. what’s a poliTICians favorite color?…. plaid (of course)

    It comes down to the best prostitute money can buy.

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:10 pm #

      john rusnak: lol…well said…

  19. Arthur T Williams IV November 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm #

    I ALWAYS said that McCain was a weirdo. I never did trust him. I always thought there was something just 'not right' about him…..like he was another kind of 'Manchurian Candidate'. He never even looked completely 'there' to me.

    I know why those guys are going over to the dark side too. They're no different than anybody else. They're worried about their jobs and now they think that staying 'in power' is the way to protect their jobs. They know they don't have the answers because it's just not 'in' them. Ron Paul was one of the few who really 'got it'.

    I'm telling you…It's coming to the realization that there's going to have to be some real ass-kicking and violence from or side because we are the majority in opinion. Secession doesn't make any sense because if every state that wanted to did….what's left of the US would look like Andora.

    So….we may as well take our country back. The only thing we've lacked, and still do, is balls.

    • Swamprat November 28, 2012 at 9:40 am #

      Arthur – as a 75 year old female I am sorry to report I do not have balls. And while I am disappointed with McCain and many of the Republicans I can’t forget the 6 years McCain spent in a Viet Nam prison camp. He had a chance for early release but refused. He had balls then.
      Perhaps it’s time for him to retire. I do wish he would before many in this country beat him senseless. Are you old enough to remember Viet Nam?

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:57 pm #

        swamprat: I remember Vietnam and I mccain is no hero in my book…a hero doesn’t do to his country what mccain has repeatedly done to us…

    • Richard Poloski November 28, 2012 at 3:32 pm #

      I met a guy who went to Annapolis with McCain. He told me and showed me the yearbook where his nickname was Moron. He was supposed to be an admiral like his dad and grandpa. He has was the Commander of the Pacific fleet during the Vietnam War.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 4:54 pm #

        richard poloski: mccain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class…if not for his father he would have been thrown out…so what does he do…he marries a bizzionaire and goes to congress where he immediately got involved in the keating five…he wiggled off the hook w/ that and proceeded to make a career of lies and corruption…his punishment was to run for president…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:12 pm #

      arthur t williams iv: I agree w/ you…mccain started out involved in the keating five and has cheated and lied his way through since…

  20. Lanette Wagner November 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm #

    Those referenced are not our friends and they cannot be trusted. And they are doing their best to prove me right.

    • Mollybee November 28, 2012 at 8:02 am #

      It is the same old same old. We get promised one thing but seems the air in DC is so poisonous that all thought process is contaminated. I’ve had it with the Republican party. It is past time to move in another direction.

      • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:14 pm #

        mollybee: let them take karl rove and the rnc and stuff them…it is time for us to choose other options…

    • Mychal Massie November 30, 2012 at 5:15 pm #

      lanette wagner: you are spot on…

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