Recently I talked with a young lady whose opinion, I believe, is like that of enough others that if I were the Rove-Bush-Priebus faction of the Republican Party, I would reconsider my cavalier attitude pursuit to disrespecting voter intelligence.
The person I spoke with works as a member of the housekeeping staff at a hotel where I was a recent guest. She earns approximately $9 hourly. She is married with two young children. A relative baby-sits for her. She drives a used automobile and by her own admission enjoys smoking cigarettes. She doesn’t believe in global warming or the save the planet nonsense.
She cannot stand the Obamas, but unfortunately for Romney she does trust view him as the solution. There lies the problem for Karl Rove who fancies himself the Republican king maker, and who absolutely despises true conservatives.
Elitists reading this will leap to the conclusion that this young lady is an uneducated, slovenish peon who cleans hotel toilets. Therein lie both the arrogance and the ignorance of those who believe persons such as this young lady are inferior to them.
The young lady I am referencing was born in the town I happened to be visiting, she is articulate, and more informed than a lot of wild-eyed liberals I’ve met.
She cannot stand the Obamas, but unfortunately for Romney she does trust view him as the solution. There lies the problem for Karl Rove who fancies himself the Republican king maker, and who absolutely despises true conservatives.
For those who may have forgotten, Rove constantly ridiculed Sarah Palin when she was the Vice-Presidential candidate, even as he now lauds Paul Ryan for having the same skill set that Palin displayed as governor. And let’s not forget his recently saying that conservative Senatorial Candidate Todd Akin, R-MO, should be murdered. But I digress.
The young lady I reference expressed deep concern for the country and the future of her children. But, as she told me, she simply could not bring herself to vote for Romney. She wished there were another candidate she could vote for. Frustrated and disgusted, she said, that she’ll probably stay home.
I should here mention that her husband is a union worker who makes $34 per hour – when he’s working (something he isn’t doing at present). As we talked, she shared that her husband might gross $1,800 in a week, but bring home only $800 after union dues and taxes. His union dues must be paid even when he is out of work.
Here’s my point to Rove and the Republican hierarchy: I don’t believe this young lady is the exception, I believe she is one of the many people they arrogantly dismiss. They are convinced that fear of what another four years of Obama will mean, and contempt for his policies, will make people vote for a Romney.
I’ve said that the Republican Party is not interested in conservatives and I’m correct – they aren’t. That said, I purposefully did not ask the young lady I was speaking with what her political affiliation was. We focused on who she was voting for and not voting for, and the reasons for same.
Even though her husband is a union worker, she understands and agrees that unions are taking more than giving. She knows what it is like for her husband to work six months and be out of work for another six months. She understands that, thanks to Obama, union officials are getting more graft than ever – while her husband is out of work more than he has steady employment.
She wants a solid candidate she can vote for. You won’t find her working at a precinct, etc., but you will find her and her husband talking. And you will find her talking to her friends and her family. Some of whom feel exactly as she does.
Unlike the Republican hierarchy and Karl Rove, I believe many voters are just like this young lady. They just want trustworthy, competent leaders who will let them live their lives and plan for their children’s future.
I’m not telling you not to vote for Romney. I am saying that with the number of people dissatisfied with Obama – shouldn’t Romney be doing better? And I’m not buying the comparisons to Carter-Reagan.
As I said, you probably won’t find this young lady or those like her stuffing campaign envelopes – but with candidates like these you won’t find her at the ballot box either.
Which makes electing the right Congressional candidates paramount. Think about four more years of Obama with the current Republican leadership.
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As much as it sickens me to have to vote for anyone other than Herman Cain for President, I also know that a vote for ANYONE BUT ROMNEY is a vote for Obama for the rest of my life. If he wins, he will make sure to finish the groundwork he has laid in the past 4 years. If he wins, God help us, because we lose – and for a long time after he is gone. It’s as simple as that. Romney is the Republican candidate and a vote cast for anyone but him will be a vote thrown away – a vote that could help to end the Obama regime. A “conscience” vote for any other candidate will not put them in office – it will keep Obama in office – and he’s counting on it! Romney, sadly, is the best chance we have to oust Obama and his ilk and start undoing his socialist agenda. My hope is to get Romney in to stop Obama, and then, maybe in 4 more years, the Republicans will get it together and actually come up with some decent candidates – but for now, I must put my conscience aside and bite the bullet – and vote for Mitt Romney.
While I agree with your main focal point that every registered voter should definitely vote in November I disagree that the “Republican” party or Rove or Romney is the problem. I believe they are not attacking the real truths. This boils down to either voting for Romney/Ryan or Obama/Biden and/or casting a vote for the Independent, Constitution or Libertarian candidate(s).
Voters need to come to terms with the real truth. This election is about America, our Constitution and our Freedoms (Romney/Ryan), verses Socialism, Communism, and complete loss of freedom through government control (Obama/Biden). It’s also about honorably working and providing for our families as opposed to letting the government subsidize and pay your way (for which we that work pay for).
Voters should vote to sustain America, it’s Constitution and freedoms that many men and women have died to protect. I confidently believe that the woman you spoke to, or her husband, would make a better President than Obama! At least their hearts would be loving America and trying to uphold our great heritage and Constitution.
A stay at home vote in this election IMHO is “American Suicide”. Romney may not be my or your favorite choice for the Republican party but that’s already been decided. The choice is between Romney and Obama. That to me isn’t a choice. Romney on his absolutely WORST day will be a million times better than Obama as President on his best day!! Why you ask? Because he loves America and her people! I”m a US Army Veteran who served during Vietnam and I’m voting to to defeat Obama and Communism. If you love America and value your freedom, I urge you not to stay at home, but do the same!! Cast you vote!!
I have to vote my principles and neither Obama or Romney match up. I am going to America's Party whose candidate is Tom Hoefling.
Daniel, Tom Hoefiling unfortunately doesn’t stand a snowballs chance to win. Basically your giving a vote for Obumbler. Readsome of the other posts like Suzies at 6:19 and you will see what I mean.
Good for you! We all should be voting our principles. I try to get people to check out Isidwith or ShadowElection to find the candidate that best represents them so they can research. Some do, some don't :(
I'm voting becaused we have to rid ourselves of this communist.
Romney = NOT OBAMA!!! That’s all we need to know!
Karl Rove is a has been, and does not deserve the air time he gets on any T.V. show. He needs to be gone, too!
Romney was not my first pick either, but I will be voting for him in Nov. To say you will not vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’ is voting for nothing to change, or at the very least, having no say in it. In my own opinion, I prefer to say “voting for who I think is the better of the two” is the more positive approach. Glass half full thinking, but if we don’t stand up for something, we stand for nothing. Both candidates have obviously made promises they cannot possibly keep. I don’t believe any politician can succeed in being elected, if they are completely honest. I’m sure I probably wouldn’t vote for a candidate who said, “I’m honest enough to tell you I can’t fix the budget, but vote for me… or I can’t improve the job situation, etc, but I can create a workable budget.” I can’t read minds (tho I wish I could)… but I don’t need a crystal ball to tell me the ‘Changes’ made by our current President have only been reduced to further “Challenges” (to put it mildly), and even prevarication with his in-your-face, blatant disregard for fairness, or protecting constitution rights. Our country has taken a large hit, that will not be easy to recover from anytime soon. If Gov. Romney can make even so much as a progressive dent in correcting some of the mess our country is in and at least getting it on the right course, I’m giving him a chance, and a term to do that, with my vote. I believe he has the experience to create jobs. That’s a definite plus on my ledger of assets. President O quite obviously does not. And I also place my hopes that he can come up with a viable budget, as he is not willing to give the baby away with the bathwater. Whether or not any President can reduce our national debt enough to matter at this point, remains to be seen. If Romney proves me wrong, then he’ll not get my vote next election. But the current admin has already proven over and over, to me, their incompetence. Four more years of this President’s egotistical ‘rule’ is honestly more than I can comprehend or wish to tolerate! I’m voting for the glass half full.
i’ll put it simply, i WILL be voting,like others romney was not my first choice but i’ll take him as the better choice now that he is the nominee, and if by some mischance i do not live to see november 6th, and the democrats try to vote mu grave stone i’ll come up the handle of the shovel fighting.
To reply to your input several posts ago Gunny, I find that I must be out of phase as something its trying to force me to use AOL, Facebook etc. to reply directly to the “reply” link under your post.
You have only to listen to the mules at the recent convention to see that they have no use or fear of God. For this they will be punished in this world or the next. I take no comfort in this.
I too voted for McCain and was quoted in the local mullet wrapper saying exactly the same phrase as you of “Hold my nose etc”.
Semper Fi means more now than ever. I find myself in much the same position as I was four years ago and will hold my nose once again. We won’t be any worse off than now if I’m wrong.
A vote for anyone other than Romney is a waste of time and effort, no matter the stench. There’s no room for a position of a “protest vote” or “none of the above”.We must collectively do whatever it takes to save this nation so that we will have a chance to improve it in the future. I’ll throw my green beanie in with you Gunny even if at 70 someone will have to carry my pack. If I’m repeating myself from earlier or later in this session, put it down to an error on my part or a bug in my magic machine.
It’s happening again. If you try to leave a reply to someones’ comment, a screen jumps up telling you to log on to Facebook. I made mention of this the other day and was told that it is not happening. It was then and it is now, or my computer has been bugged. Anyone else having this problems or am I all alone?
It’s not your computer and you aren’t seeing things. I clicked “reply” and it took me to the first few comments that demand the use of facebook or some such site. When I searched on down, I came to this empty box for the reply. Now, I forgot what I wanted to say. Brrr.Oh, Most of us are in that position, sumitch. We feel we have to pick the lesser of the two evils. I recall Perot jumping in at the last and vote spliting was the result. We can’t afford to have that happen in this election. Agree with you whole heartedly on that point! Plus, those who refuse to vote are giving Obama the vote. Just saying.
Neither am I “wild about Romney”, but the alternative turns my stomach. For those I’ve met sharing Mychal’s dilemma with the lady at the hotel I give something along the line of the following – generally they say they will vote….. and I’m hoping they do.
The democrats are statists and statism destroys a society… and Obama is a statist….. whether he will admit it or not. So, I offer the following:
To voters everywhere, this is very short, relatively speaking, and leaves much out, but I’ll attempt to include sufficient information to put your mind to work. To understand the present state of our nation it is necessary to go back towards first cause and understand the process which has gotten us to this point. If you come in the middle of a complicated conversation and form your philosophy at that point it is surely lacking – go back to the beginning of the conversation and your understanding will provide a more realistic view.
I can well understand your desire to help everyone have a better life, but there is something I would like to explain about the philosophy of individuality, self-respect and inner peace… and the true way to have a better life. These traits come about because a person has worked with their own two hands to support themselves, in doing so they learn to respect themselves and to the same degree respect others.
…..From social discipline and accountability comes self-discipline and responsibility which foster honorable character… and statist policy destroys this progression. A society must be free to make their own choices and free to take the consequences of those actions… whether good or bad. It is from these experiences that our own individual freedom is ‘learned’ through a process of honest introspection… and with it comes inner peace.
…..(It takes some thought, but there is a reason an old proverb states: ‘A lazy man who will not work shall not eat.’ ……. It is for his own benefit (it is impossible for a lazy man to be at peace with himself) that you not feed him (he is a taker without the understanding of sharing), but provide him a hand up with encouragement and the means to provide for himself – it is the way he learns responsibility and self-respect. A lazy man has no respect for himself or others, but he will respect others to the degree he finds inner peace and learns to respect himself.)
It was Marx who stated, as a basic principle of socialism, ‘give people the basic necessities of life and they will be happy’. This philosophy has never worked, instead it has led to lethargy by destroying creativity and initiative, it destroys our dignity – just look at history, use the Soviet Union as an example, they got where they couldn’t even feed themselves. Look at Greece and many others – where statist polices are practiced the nations fall into a state of disintegration. The statist policies of the EU have put the union in a state of near collapse. (Consider not just the PIIGS, but also France and even England, with a mixed philosophy, is winding down.)
…..(Note: Give people freedom, not ‘Marx’!, and they will decide/discover for themselves what happiness is and find true inner peace – the only philosophy which fills this need is capitalism.)
…..Statist policies, which make the citizenry dependent on gov’t, have all but destroyed the US – it is not capitalist philosophy that has done so. FDR (most noticeably, you can include Wilson and others) laid the foundation for the welfare state and we have gone downhill ever since – as an example, first it drove the family farmer out of business (he kept his dignity and would not take gov’t subsidies- those that did survived but gave up some of their dignity to do it) and the gov’t has had to subsidize the poor ever since in increasing measure. Instead of providing a free market place and jobs, statist policy has intervened to the point the cost of doing business has driven our jobs off shore – the more entitlements the more taxes are required, the higher the cost of doing business. This means less jobs at home and more people dependent on gov’t – it’s a vicious cycle that once started becomes self-perpetuating.
Had we not gone down this road of statist policy (synonymous with socialist idealogy, now with many definitions, but the bottom line is: any policy which makes citizens dependent on the state) we would not be in the mess we are in. You see, we have created an ever growing social dependence on gov’t which creates more problems… and then treat the symptoms with more statist policy, in turn making the ‘symptoms’ worse and us more dependent on gov’t. This has evolved into the present state where even more statist policy is required, more and more the state is becoming our provider. This means folks are becoming less free all the time and with it our creativity, initiative, individuality and character as a nation is being destroyed. (Have you wondered why our education system isn’t working in spite of the cash and effort we have thrown at it??? Have you wondered why our farmers have to depend on Mexican immigrants???)
…..(Do you realize that every law the gov’t enacts gives the gov’t more power and the people less? This is how our freedom is being stolen from us. It is the responsibility of gov’t to educate, not legislate… its responsibility is to moderate the greed of human nature and avoid the excesses which destroy a society. We have failed to do so, but not because of capitalism, it is because of statist/socialist policy. Can you not see the disintegration of our ethics and morality as a nation since about 1960???!)
….. It would take a book to explain so I will simply make a statement: Capitalism is the only moral society which can exist, it fosters genuine independence, character and honor. True, the statists/progressives have succeeded in redefining capitalism to make it an abomination….. but this is just another lie of convenience the statists/progressives tell.
….. Note: It is because of statist policy rendering capitalism ineffective that big business has grown to become a monster sucking the life out of society. Excessive profit is a destroyer from the bottom up and it is statist policy that has enabled this greed to take over. When you mix statist policy with capitalism neither can work and greed takes over….. eventually, because statist/socialist policy is self-perpetuating and destructive, the society will evolve into anarchy (like Greece). (The only true moral, enduring society is a free society, a capitalist society… and its tenets must be guarded against extremes such as statism.)
Statist policy is the creed of ignorance and its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. (Churchill said something to that effect.) To survive as a nation we must get back our independence, Jefferson was correct when he stated the less gov’t is the best gov’t – he understood the relationship between personal support and independence with character and honor.
Note: It has taken statists approximately fifty years to nearly destroy our society (if you don’t believe that just look at our history, our downfall began with the statists/progressives enacting legislation)… and under ideal leadership it would take nearly that long to reclaim our true independence and eliminate the sense of hopelessness now prevalent in society.
…..We cannot just shut off entitlements, but there are genuine substitutes for our present gov’t subsidies that will provide for those unable to provide for themselves in a way to foster independence and self-respect instead of dependence and lethargy – rather than the feeling of disparity and helplessness the present system of entitlements fosters. (Notice that statist entitlements never amount to quite enough and folks are always left wanting.)
Bottom line: It takes people with freedom and independence who work with their own two hands to provide the dignity and self-respect, creativity and initiative that is required to provide an enduring society with character and honor. It is these who provide security, based on integrity rather than greed, for the welfare of following generations.
The statists have a counter argument for each of these points I have made, but if you will take notice you will note their arguments are emotional and without an objective foundation – however, each of these points has an objective foundation. For the statists objectivity is merely a convenience to justify their emotions and they, in spite of their good intentions, cause a great deal of harm, even destroying the very things/traits they think they stand for.
Here is hoping this will stir something within you and spur an open-minded conversation where we all can benefit. There is much to be said on this topic and there is no topic of greater importance (it even incorporates the spirit of truth and God)….. our children depend on it, we are, as a nation, succeeding in destroying their future.
As for Obama, I have communed with two different psychiatrists who state that Obama displays the traits of a narcissist (one even stating he will go to great lengths of immoral behavior to hold on to power) – I suggest you find a neutral psychologist and ask their opinion. Surely you recognize his subtlety and everything he says is an attack of some sort causing conflict and division. More than that, he is telling each of us what and how to think in very subtle fashion – he gives us no credibility to think for ourselves and the trouble is, for many, he is correct… many have given up the freedom of mind and joined the ‘herd’.
For a third psychological reference:
……This is an excerpt from the bottom of an article written by Robin, a psychotherapist in Berkeley. The preceding info in the article was a discussion of the possible traits of Obama which lead to these ‘opinions’.
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Let’s return now to my original question: What is wrong with Obama? My guess is a great deal. The answer is complex and likely includes some combination of the above.
Along with the brain issues are personality disorders: narcissism, paranoia, passive-aggressiveness. There’s even the possibility of the most destructive character defect of all, an antisocial personality. Untreated abuse can foster antisocial traits, especially among boys.
If my assessment is accurate, what does this mean?
It means that liberals need to wake up and spit out the Kool-Aid…and that conservatives should put aside differences, band together, and elect as many Republicans as possible.
Because Obama will not change. He will not learn from his mistakes. He will not grow and mature from on-the-job experience. In fact, over time, Obama will likely become a more ferocious version of who he is today.
Why? Because this is a damaged person. Obama’s fate was sealed years ago growing up in his strange and poisonous family. Later on, his empty vessel was filled with the hateful bile of men like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers.
Obama will not evolve; he will not rise to the occasion; he will not become the man he was meant to be. This is for one reason and one reason alone:
He is not capable of it.
This article is not intended to offer any definitive diagnoses, but for educational purposes only.
A frequent AT contributor, Robin is a psychotherapist in Berkeley and a recovering liberal. You can e-mail Robin at robinofberkeley@hotmail.com. She regrets that she may not be able to acknowledge your e-mail.
Al, you read my mind!
Outstanding Al. I bow to a superior word smith.
pblee, sumitch and those ‘liking’ my comment, I appreciate your input.
It is my hope that the comment will resonate with some liberals and the undecided, so anyone feel free to copy and paste it anywhere they choose.
Here is to the oval office having a new occupant come Jan…
Wishing all well,
Al
We really don’t have much choice in the matter. I think that the lady, and others like her, who will not vote at all are giving Obama his Dictatorship for the rest of his life. Those who do vote for Romney/Ryan are at least giving us something other than Dictatorship. If they are duds, we will have a chance to remove them but removal will not happen if Obama is elected. I listen to folks say they will vote for Ron Paul or Johnson or West… no matter what. Those split votes will surely give Obama his Dictatorship. I, too, wish we had a better choice of Conservative candidate but we don’t. In Romney’s RNC presentation his words about ObamaCare caught my ear. “…repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare.” The crowd cheered. The word “replace” bothers me. We need a good, decent, no nonsense Congress and American Cabinet. The Elected and assigned who believe in The Consititution of The United States. It looks like we could have a First Lady who actually loves this country called “America.” “Here in America, In God We Still Trust.”
I cannot stand Karl Rove, he sure does'nt speak for me. I think it is so sad how Sara Palin was treated. She had much more experience then Obama did. I fear for our country, I would vote for anyone but Obama and I am not a racist.
ditto X two
Check out Gary Johnson!
I am in total agreement with you both!
Debbi Dearing Powell Even though there is a Libretarian candidate we can't let Gary Johnson or Ron Paul dilute our votes. Any vote That direction is a vote for Obama.
Debbi Dearing Powell Even though there is a Libretarian candidate we can't let Gary Johnson or Ron Paul dilute our votes. Any vote That direction is a vote for Obama.
Actually, when I check Obama's name, THAT is a vote for Obama. When I check Gary Johnson's name, that is a vote for him and no one else. Neither Obama or Romney had my vote to begin with, so neither one is losing it. Voting the "lesser of two evils" or "most likely to win" for years is why this country is in the shape it is in. And FYI, he was elected as a Republican governor in a state that was easily 2 to 1 Democrat, beating the incumbent DEM by a good margin. Re-elected later by a larger margin. So he'll be taking votes from Obama too. But, if Romney loses, it's because the GOP didn't put up a better candidate, and because Romney didn't win over voters. Just don't expect much change with Romney because they agree on most issues.
Debbi, you are cheating yourself. You can believe what you want to believe, but Johnson will take votes away from Romney. Not many, but truly needed. You need to think about the bigger picture here. We need to stop the insanity now! Gary Johnson is great and should not cast his whole political career on this presidential race where he will not get 2% of the vote and this is embarrassing. But, as an "insider" he can help bring about change as Ron Paul is. He can help us conservatives so much more in the coming years. Why doesn't he? This all about ego and you know it! If he is not careful, this will end his career completely.
Agree 100%. I grew up in a county with a population < 8000 people, so I guess you could call me a hick. Rove and the other self appointed 'king makers'(of both parties) have always annoyed me. But I most certainly will vote against BHO.
I’ve said it before and I’ll repeat myself again. Romney was not my first pick to run against Obama, but he’s what we have. A “protest vote” for anyone else is more than a waste of time, it’s a vote for Obama or at best not a vote for him.
It does no good to help get this man out of office to vote for anyone but Romney. True, he may be just another lying politician that denys that his RomneyCare is the model for Obama care or that says nothing about his stand against private ownership of guns. But we have four years of proof of what Obama is a liar and worse and only best guesses at what Romney will do if sitting in the oval office. When I say worse, you have only to find the current email floating around having to do with “Seals Responding to being called gutless” to understand why I say this.
http://www.youtube.com/v/X-Xfti7qtT0?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
I’m well aware that I am hyper sensitive when it comes to our military and make no apology for my stand. I hate war as much as anyone, but when it comes down to them or me, I’ll take the latter and I believe that’s exactly where we are. But not at war with another nation or even terrorists. I beleive it’s a war to save our nation. One that has done more for the rest of the world than any other nation in history. We aren’t saints, but we aren’t devils either.
I’ll be taking a chance with Romney and if I’m wrong, we won’t be any worse off than we are. And Rove can kiss my posterior cheeks.
If the polls currently being published that show obama leading can even half way be believed we are in deep trouble and headed even deeper. If that many people are so blind and greedy for government “freebies” or just plain soft-headed liberals that they cannot see what is being done to them right in front of their noses they will get no sympathy from me as the country crashes onto the ash heap of history of once great nations. The trouble is they are pulling the rest of us down with them and refuse to understand that the gravy train so many are riding at our expense will not run on endlessly. If they think they will be spared by the dictatorial, socialist/communist regime that obama and his partners in crime are engineering they will be most sadly mistaken. The non-producers will be the FIRST ones rounded up and eliminated from the gene pool and whether or not they voted for their new rulers will not matter. Don’t believe that? Just look at how total power has been consolidated by every dictator down through recorded history. It will be no different here, and yes, we are facing a potential dictatorship if obama is re-elected and revolution or submission will be the only options.
So perhaps the Romney/Ryan ticket isn’t our ideal and doesn’t meet all of our conservative wants and wishes so it offends the conscience of some to have to vote for the lesser of two evils. Sorry but that is what we have to work with now whether we like it or not. Just ask what is the right thing to do for the country as a whole. Not voting at all is certainly not the correct solution because that is the same as voting for obama/biden and will hand them the election on a silver platter. They plan to steal the election anyway they can if they have to but there is no need to just give it to them. Instead we must work to get them out of power then we can go from there to try to repair the damage they have already done.
Any citizen that does not vote has abrogated any valid right to complain about where they end up.
Absolutely sterling Wakinyan. Pick me for your team even if it’s just to carry the luggage.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Edmund Burke
Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 – 1797).
I am about to annoy a lot of Mr. Massie’s readers but it has to be said in a tough love tone of voice: WAKE UP CONSERVATIVES AND STOP WHINING.
Romney wasn’t my choice in the primary but he’s my choice now. I will vote for him and Paul Ryan because together they have the educational, professional and governmental experience required for the jobs they will be elected to fill. As far as I can determine, both men possess exemplary proven character and good judgement. While my personal religious views are those of a reformed Presbyterian, I appreciate that both men are respected and active members of their churches. They fear God as I do. Both men are proud fathers and happy husbands. Both families look happy and wholesome. That can’t be faked. It is quite obvious that Romney and Ryan love our country as I do and are honored to serve in public office. They believe in American exceptionalism and the incredible blessing of our way of life and the magnificent idea of the American society.
I cannot say any of the above regarding the fraudulent, petulant, immature, self-absorbed, irreligious, Communist Chicago mob frontman who currently occupies the Oval Ofice. He and his coniving racist wife have their fingers in your wallet and their eyes on your freedom. (Do I really need to mention that Biden is a heartbeat away from that office?)
Somehow 4 years of Romney and Ryan doesn’t seem like the end of the America as we know it, now does it? 4 more years of Obama and Biden may well be. And the Obamas would like nothing better.
Dear God, in heaven. Wake up and if you must: Do NOT think of it as a vote for Romeny………THINK OF IT AS A VOTE AGAINST THE TERROR WE WILL ALLOW TO PROCEED FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS!!!
YOU CANNOT BE TOO BRIGHT IF YOU THINK NO VOTE IS BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a serious staunch conservative, going back to my first couple years in school, I fought to see a conservative get the nomination. So did so many others in the same position; single or married, working and earning just a living, and seeing substantial drops from "a living with some extras, if you scrimped" to barely earning a living, and for these reasons, most of us made five and ten dollar donations, with only those in the best of positions shelling out a hundred, or even fifty.
Aganst those candidates was posed someone the rnc wanted, and he alone was capable of getting the million dollar donations, the support of the party, yet he represents the desires of so few, even most of those who pushed for Romney, as private citizens, did so on the basis of his "being electable" rather than because they believe in his principles and ideals.
Unlike the young lady you spoke to, I have screwed up my courage and girded my loins, and am going to vote for this man I have little more respect for than the last person I cast my vote on, not for, but against the other one. I am going to do so because I do believe he is lesser as an evil than zero is.
I have no hopes for Romney to do a great job, but that is in a large part because only someone dedicated to restoring our Republic, as it was established, is capable of doing what I stand upon as the only definition of "a Great Job".
I only hope Romney will be sufficiently conservative to keep us head above water long enough to recognize as A People, The Nation of America, we have to return to being true "Sovereign Citizens" the drivers of our Nation, to have any freedom, and only our holding true to all our founding principles, all of us who would be free, only if we choose to stand together on this one issue, is there any possibility of avoiding the fall of this nation and its assumption as a subject by the U.N. as it takes position as center of "world government". God Bless you and yours for making this message so clear, and bringing the words and thoughts of a regular working person, one little different from myself except in which job market we work in, and showing just how far away the RNC is from being representative of real people.
Semper Fidelis,
John McClain
GySgt, USMC, ret.
Vanceboro, NC
This is not the first article I have read from so called conservatives who are talking down Mitt. It sounds to me, we are going down the McCain road to losing this election again…Keep it up you so called conservatives and welcome to Progressive/Socialism…Job well done!
dear Jack, I do think you misunderstand Mychal, I don't believe he is advocating staying at home, I've known him for a decade or so, and I expect he will vote his conscience. His point is, we, you and I who went to the polls, held our collective noses, and voted for McCain, despite his person, we must be those who will rise up and call down the Rove's and party principles, because they don't challenge the left, they are not advocating conservation of our Nation, not our values, our principles, not even our established republic.
We can't let zero take the nation over a cliff, but we can't allow what used to be the party representing us, remain as it is, and do far different from anything we truly expect, and have the right to demand. I will vote for Romney, and hope he is less of a fool, but I will use the next four years, God willing, to work to either get rid of the Statists controlling the party, or see how many conservatives can be moved to a new party such as one derived from the "Tea Party advocates", and make the RNC irrelevant.
Going into the election of 08, I swore I'd vote for zero if McCain didn't at least seriously attempt to challenge zero, and stand up like a man. At the polling station, I could not do it, and yes, I voted for McCain, even as I hated myself for falling short of my beliefs.
The real issue is this has been status quo for the forty years I've been aware of the insides of politics, and if we don't force a change in a party to actually represent us, at some point, even "the lesser of two evils" will be sufficient to push us that last quarter inch, starting the dramatic ride to the bottom. We must put our faith in God, do our best to fulfill our moral obligations, and we must fight, we cannot fail to fight, not when the enemy is inside our own camp. Sincerely,
Semper Fidelis,
John McClain
GySgt, USMC, ret.
Vanceboro, NC
John McClain, I have read several articles by Massie saying that he will not support Romney, no matter what. I read one article where he said he would not vote for the lesser of two evils. Now he applauds this lady for staying home. I think you are wrong. If he does not man to stay home and not vote, then he needs to say so, because he is influencing thousands of people to follow the lead of this lady.
What he meant to say was, "many Democratic" votes will stay home.
Thank you, Mychal, for your frank analysis of the voter situation. Looking at other readers’ comments, I am disturbed that not everyone is reading your article in its entirety before offering their own rant. And to be blunt, I can only assume that those who think Romney is less dangerous than Obama are young and not the most politically or historically astute.
I am 64, a single working woman in very poor health who can’t imagine how I will ever be able to retire. If the Republicans had a true, proven conservative running against Obama, I probably would have voted for him. As it is, I am heartsick at the choices before me. Either way I vote, I’d be going against my conscience and endorsing someone who’s going to be very, very bad for America. Either way I vote, I’d be ashamed to tears of anyone finding out who I voted for. I’ve heard people say they would vote for Castro or Pee Wee Herman over Obama. That kind of thinking sickens me. I am weary of voting for the lesser of two evils. Evil is evil, and this year I just don’t think I can put my name on a ballot, despite the implications of not casting a vote. I don’t know what Jesus would do if He were an American citizen in 2012; but based on Biblical admonitions about sin and corruption, it would not surprise me if He sat out the election too.
I saw a sad, sad bumper sticker: THE BAD NEWS IS THAT OBAMA & ROMNEY ARE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT ONLY ONE OF THEM CAN WIN.
If you can’t make a choice between the ruin Obama has brought to this country in 4 years and what you “think” Romney will bring, then you are the one who is not politically astute. How in the world can you put Romney in the same league with a devil like Obama? It sound as if you have been listening to CNN or MSNBC.If that’s where you get your information then I see why you believe Romney is evil.It probably would help if you did your own independent research.
We know what Obama has done and is still doing to this country.The list is long and his been talked about ad nauseum. His policies and executive orders has hurt and directly affected every citizen in the U.S. The same can’t be said about Romney.
Our country is hurting. We need a good experienced business man to lead us back from ruin. It won’t be easy and it will take time. But I’m afraid people like you won’t give him that time.If the economy isn’t back in a snap and all the ruin perpetuated by Obama isn’t made good again to your liking then he has to go too, right?
My question to you is, did you vote for Obama and your trust for any politician is a negative?? Or did you vote for the RINO McCain? Then you have a right to your mistrust.
Regarding your statement about Romney being less dangerous than Obama, yes I believe he is. I know he’s not a Marxist or have Muslim leanings. He’s not a liar, he’s not a racial divider, he has no desire to turn this country into an Islamic State and he’s not an aider of The Muslim Brotherhood.That’s enough for me.
I am 67 years old, black, female, conservative, constitutionist, researcher, owner of my own company and lover of the Lord.
From what I read of your post, you seem to be quite fearful and not putting your trust in the Lord regarding your health or your retirement situation. Everything will work out just trust in Him.
Christine, Jesus did, in fact, say,”Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto God what is God’s”. As a citizen who still has a say in the type of government we want, I’d say casting a vote is rendering unto Caesar. What so many liberal “Christians” fail to acknowledge is Jesus didn’t say “Render unto Caesar & let Caesar take care of all your needs”. My late father’s favorite hymn is one he heard in England before the D-Day invasion called ‘God Will Take Care of You.’ He claimed that as his life’s song & God came thru & brought him back to the USA to marry mom & start a family. God finally called him home in 1996 but he always stressed we do our civic duty by voting after witnessing the horrors of a tyrant who’s out of control. May God Bless You in your decision-making.
Thank you, Chris, I grew up singing your father’s hymn:
“Be not dismayed whate’er betide
God will take care of you
Beneath His wings of love abide
God will take care of you.”
You were blessed to have a father who was wise and a godly example to his children. I wish I’d had the same.
I don’t know what I will do in November. When you are faced with 2 bad choices but you know you have to choose anyway, it’s hard to come to terms with it.
I’m afraid that many of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 because they believed in his platform (it’s time for change, a new beginning for America, stand with Barack and reclaim the American dream, etc.) will this year vote for Romney FOR THE SAME REASON that they voted for Obama — and not grasp the fact that they are doing it. How many times, over how many generations, will Americans vote for someone because they believe surely he has to be better than the guy currently in the White House — only to be surprised and dismayed when he’s not the man they thought he was?
I am educated and well-read across all points of view (I have not turned on a TV since late 2010), and I think I understand as much about the issues, the voting records of the candidates, their personal & professional history, and the text of their speeches over the past 6-8 years as any average American facing a voting choice. But either way, the choice is grim. I know I won’t vote for Obama: the question is — will I vote for Romney? We’ll see. Since I am accountable only to God for my actions, I’m going to continue sending my prayers for clarity and good judgment in His direction.
Christina, consider this: Obama does not respect men and does not fear God. This is a godless combination residing in a man who believes he is his own measure of all things. I believe God has weighed him in the balance and found him wanting.
Your analysis of Rove and his ilk is exactly right. Romney was not my choice but I feel we must vote for him because the alternative is a disaster for the whole country.
Romney is just the start of the re-taking of the country and it may take many small steps like this to return to a constitutional republic. My biggest fear is that there are some who will give up and not vote. Romney may need t be replaced after 4 years just like many others in DC. But we must start somewhere.
I agree with you Rebecca. I am a conservative too but what outweighs the argument regarding Karl Rove and if Romney is conservative enough. The fact is that Romney loves this country and I believe he truly wants the best for us. I also believe he is a very conservative man personally. I don't believe Romney would ever deviate from his core values and I believe those are substantial. I love the man because he truly loves God and what I've heard about him, he follows in His footsteps.
I really don't care if he was a moderate. He wasn't president of the U.S., he was governor of Mass. and he must have been good to be elected to 2 terms. If you have a state that is almost 100% Democrats, you tend to deal in a more moderate fashion to get what needs to be done.
We know what we are getting with Obama. I knew when I first heard him speak and it has never left me in 4 years. It was evilness.
Obama has already told us at the convention that he wants 4 more years to finish what he started…that is enough to make the hairs on my arms stand up!!!!!
Dear Barbara, I read your post three times to make sure I fully understood before responding to your "beliefs" about Romney and I'm compelled to ask you some questions. Namely: "What PROOF do you have "Romney loves this Country?" Did Romney tell YOU himself "he loves America?" or did you hear him say "he loves America!" I need to understand WHY you made a flat statement that: "Romney loves this Country!"
And no offense, but I nearly choked when reading the remainder of your comment, so I politely ask you to substantiate your "belief" that: "He truly wants the BEST for us." Is that just a "gut feeling" Barbara or do you have legitimate/believable proof that Romney "truly wants the best for us." ??
Since http://www.dictionary.com defines a "Politician" as: "A seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about WINNING FAVOR or RETAINING POWER than about MAINTAINING PRINCIPLES."
With participation in all elections since our esteemed President John F. Kennedy was in office, I take that definition to mean: "A politician (i.e. ALL politicians) will say anything (or whatever is necessary!) to a totally gullible, even brain-washed society in order to achieve their ultimate goal of election or re-election!"
Back to your statements: You said "you don't believe Romney "would ever deviate from his core values . . ."
OK Barbara, from your perspective, could you explain and/or prove what Romneys "core values" are? Then you said: "you don't believe he would EVER deviate from them and that "those (core values) are SUBSTANTIAL!! WOW! That's a very powerful statement Barbara, so of course I'm interested to know HOW, WHY and WHEN you either believed from the very beginning? or you acquired a "belief" in Romney having "core values" plus BELIEVING he would NOT "deviate" from those "core values!"
Then "last, but not least" and because I was a Missionary fourteen years in East Africa (yes, where obama was born!), I simply MUST know HOW "YOU" KNOW "Romney truly loves God?"
I'm guessing you've followed Mr. Romney's campaign closely because of all the positive "beliefs" you have about him as a person and politician. Therefore, (if you know!) can you tell me if Mr. Romney "mentions God's name or gives God "the credit or Glory" (for his long-standing millionaire status?) even occasionally during speeches, debates, with other politicians or any "unguarded" moment when he's "just being himself?"
As you can read, Barbara, I am NOT "politically correct"! In fact, I loathe that "Post-Modernistic" cliche which has "muzzled" our people from "saying it like IT IS!" the past sixty years resulting in the tragic and automatic response of "Silence giving Consent" to this tyrannical government doing whatever they want to us! No wonder THEY sneeringly refer to Americans as: "Sheeple!"
Just one more thing Barbara: "In 2007, I started "waking up" to the ominous, irreparable "changes" in our Country after reading Gerome Corsi's "The Late Great U.S.A." followed by "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" then "Culture of Corruption" though admittedly, I couldn't go beyond the half-way mark in that book; I was so sickened and repulsed by the rapacious greed, corruption and EVIL amongst the 545+ government thieves, crooks, liars and cheats CONTROLLING the everyday lives of 312,000,000 people in our Country . . . and WE let that happen because of apathy, denial, arrogance, drugs and violence! :-(
For the Record: Yes, I'm voting but not because I "believe" in Romney. It's the same "robotic procedure" since 1776: Voting for the "lesser" of two evils because the "lesser" is the ONLY CHOICE we have! :-(
"The way to undermine America is to destroy their Patriotism, then their Morality, then their Spiritualism."
–Josef Stalin
Just a correction, Romney was a one term governor. He was not elected for two terms. I don't know how much you know about mormon beliefs, but from your post, it sounds like not much. I would encourage you to look into that further. A good website for Christians is carm (dot) org/mormon-beliefs. (you'll want to put the http:// in front and change (dot) to an actual dot) I've done, and do, alot of research on the election and candidates, and I share when I can. I do have one thought on this, (I'm truly not trying to be argumentative, just stating an opinion)….I don't believe he is that concerned about this country. If he were, he would leave his money here and be paying taxes on it here. That would go along way toward helping.
Just to be clear Linda, your whole argument is with someone believing in Romney. Could you please enlighten us as to why Obama should be believed? After all, he said he would cut the deficit in half and this did not happen. He said he would get unemployment below 8% and this did not happen. He is supposed to create a budget for each year he is in office and this has not happened. So please tell us Linda why we should trust Obama? Your mouth flows like the Colorado river but doesn't really say much, but one thing was funny. You mentioned Stalin. Stalin based his governing philosophy on the writing of Karl Marx and this is funny because so does Obama. He was part of the Democratic Socialist Party right up until he ran for Congress. However, this party is either a preempt to Communism like that of Stalin or it can moved another direction as Hitler took. He too was a member of the Democratic Socialist Party. So again Linda, please enlighten us all.
A no vote is a a vote for Obama.
I'm afraid you're right. The Dems have just as much disdain for the regular folks as do the Reps. We can only hope that the people with buyer's remorse will stay away and not vote for Obama. Who will speak for the people after the election?
Unfortunately, since after Reagan, most of my votes have gone for the “least bad” candidate in presidential elections. This time is no different. I also wish we had better choices, but the “political machine” cranks out the candidates that suit them, not necessarily us. I HEARTILY AGREE WITH YOU, Mychal that the young woman you talked to is the rule rather than the exception to the average voter. However, in order to get the country back on track, I think we all have to start getting out there for the “least bad”.
As has been the case most of my adult life, voting for Romney will be choosing the lesser of two evils. But make no mistake, unlike the young woman in this story, I will vote. Sitting out this election is in effect voting for Obama. I hope Mychal pointed this out to her.
As has been the case most of my adult life, voting for Romney will be choosing the lesser of two evils. But make no mistake, unlike the young woman in this story, I will vote. Sitting out this election is in effect voting for Obama. I hope Mychal pointed this out to her.
The BOTTOM line is: if you don’t vote, you are voting for socialism, if you vote for Obama, you are voting for socialism…this vote isn’t about anything else at this point..
Amen to that!!! But how sad our decision for president has boiled down to this. Never in my lifetime (and I’m 64) would I have thought we would be forced into making a choice for president based on trying to keep a self-center socialist from ruining our country. We are desperately in need of another “Ronald Regan-isk” candidate. After the conventions, I was confounded by the Reps attempt at firing up our party. And Clint Eastwood’s rambling was such an embarrassment I can’t even begin to explain my reaction. The brightest spot, in my humble estimation, was Ann Romney. How fortunate we would be to have her as the FLOTUS, versus the current occupant. For what ever reason, Romney hasn’t figured out how to present his forum. My fear is he never will. His recent interview this weekend again made me scratch my head. So NOW he want to keep “parts’ of Omabacare. REALLY????…Really??? I think I’ll move to a tropical island somewhere and live off of coconuts and bananas.
I agree it is sad that our decision has to be so basic, but nothing else matters in this election unless people understand the seriousness of getting Obama out. I am absolutely stunned at the numbers of people who are so blind to what is happening around them. This is like when Hitler ralled the Germans against the jews. In America, Obama is rallying the poor and middle class against the rich–this is serious business here..I am 53 and have never seen an election as critical as this one..
Sad but true.
There are quality people who ,patriots that they are,would run for office if lifetime politicians would not be able to stuff the ballot box in their overwhelming favor. Take care of your district and ensure your re-election… a chicken here,ham steak there and presto elected for life. Now you can really do some damage!!!
TERM LIMITS. 2 and out,no benefits other than a grateful community.
Then people will have a chance to enter and win. And what politician would enact laws he will inherit a short time later.
This is not how the game was meant to be played!!!!
Keep up the good fight sir.
I respect everyone's right to vote or not to vote but not voting in this situation is tantamount to voting for Obama and this is exactly what Obama and his cronies are hoping for. If we don't vote for the lessor of two evils we can kiss the country our founding fathers worked so hard for to give us goodbye. If you don't vote then never once open your mouth to complain about what happens in your future and the future of your children and grandchildren. Not voting in this case is no different than apathy.
While I am not wild about Romney, I have to think of what would happen I didn't vote for him. Not voting at all is like voting FOR Obama. I think the choice is.
I so agree, Sharon. Not voting is a vote for Obama. Why can we not get people to understand that absolute fact? Everyone needs to vote to counteract the dead people and dogs who will be voting for Obama. I do think there is still time for every state to install Voter ID to prevent voter fraud.
Yours is an excellent article. There are those who definitely want Obama out of office. And among those people are those who aren’t impressed with Romney. The race is going to be very, very close and will no doubt end up in a protracted court battle if Obama loses.
Another thing I foresee is riots in American streets if Romney is elected over Obama. Democrat policies beginning with LBJ have created a parasitic culture of deadbeats who are rewarded financially for giving birth to illegitimate babies. When the “free” money gravy train dries up for these folks, they will take to the streets.
As a Republican, I am not inspired by Romney. But, I’d vote for Bozo the Clown before I’d vote for Obama. Even more dangerous than Obama are the people who voted him into office.
I understand the young lady's frustration. I too wanted a conservative candidate. but I will be damned if I stay home and let Obama destroy this country.
Four more years is all he will need to complete his conversion of America to a Socialist country. You say elect a Congress to control him? They have done nothing to control him so far… and I don't want to hear a song and dance about the Senate being a majority of Democrats…..There are checks and balances that could have been used to stop Obama, and it did not happen.
People who stay home and don't vote will give the office to Obama and our great Nation will be changed forever.
So you and the young lady in the article and stay home and prove your point to Karl Rove….but if Obama goes in and we lose our country, I will blame all of you. that did not vote!
I'm sorry, but getting rid of Obama is more important than making your point with Rove and the Republican party.
I feel the same as this young lady, and so many. I’ve been a poll worker, an election judge, a state and county delegate etc, all nearly a decade ago. Sickened and disgusted by both and all for some time now. To not vote goes against everything I’ve ever believed, and yet, I have voted the “lesser of two”, or even three, evils before. So, I ask you Mychal, and your readers this question: just what would Jesus do? What reasonable choice do patriotic, God fearing,(or not) people of conscience and love of country do?
Jan, follow me to the polls and vote for Romney. Jesus isn’t registered to vote but you and I are.
Thanks pblee, and you are right. I know this. But so hard election after election to have such a lousy choice. How many times have I held my nose and voted for one not nearly what I’d hope for, or even worthy. Lesser of two evils. Again and always?